I didn't realise just how different the rules were for heathens, among seemingly normal, apparently atheist, fellow human beans. This is the second time I have ben privvy to this particular conversation. Them: "...something about christmas..." Me: "we don't celebrate christmas at our house" Them: *stunned silence Them: *more stunned silence Them: "Oh, is it because of your religion?" Me: 'Well, sort of. I'm atheist. I don't participate in any religious holidays including christmas and Easter. And Ramadan etc etc' Them: "Well that's just wrong. What about your kids?" So let me get this straight- It's perfectly ok to deny my kids an explosion of unearned, unwanted, cheap plastic material crap if it is against my religion to do so, but not if i don't have a religion (invisible sky-fairy) telling me not to??? Reminds me of that saying...something about putting the brain in gear before opening your mouth to speak? And both times these conversations were with fellow heathens. *Disclaimer - I am not a writer